Saturday, September 02, 2006

Cultic, Aberrant, or Abusive?
  1. Spiritual Fodder
  2. Cultic, Aberrant, or Abusive?
  3. Role of Women in Ministry
  4. Then What's a Good Church?
  5. Why So Quiet?
  6. Becky's UBF Roots
  7. The Letter
  8. Dissecting Ed's Brain
  9. Shepherding/Discipleship Movement
  10. Exit Strategy
  11. Moving On
There is no authority in the United States that can deem a group a cult and prohibit their practice unless they break existing laws, e.g. stockpiling munitions, condoning underage marriage, etc. Adults, which unfortunately include college freshmen, must choose by themselves whether to recognize they are in a cult or not. Thanks to the Internet, we can make an informal assessment. Please click and read the first three links below; they need no further elaboration. The fourth source includes detailed commentary of how well its list of characteristics matches up with my own assessment of Berkland.

Source 1: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary

Source 2: Leadership University (Abusive)
  1. Control-Oriented Leadership
  2. Manipulation of Members
  3. Rigid, Legalistic Lifestyle
  4. Frequent Changing of Group/Church Name
  5. Denouncing All Other Churches
  6. Persecution Complex
  7. Targeting Young Adults
  8. Painful Exit Process
Source 3: New England Institute of Religious Research (Aberrant)
  1. Scripture Twisting
  2. Controlling Leader/Leadership
  3. The Chosen Few
  4. Uniformity Of Lifestyle
  5. No Dissent
  6. Traumatic Departure
  7. In Transition
Source 4: University of California at Berkeley (Cultic)
Recruitment 1. Deception - Group identity and/or true motives are not revealed. The group leaders tell members to withhold truth from outsiders.
Yes. On the outset it appears that Berkland's goal is to mold future leaders of the church (one presumes the Universal Church). I have personally heard this stated, and it is a great goal for a campus ministry. Later, it becomes clearer that the goal is actually nurturing lifelong Berkland members, exclusively. If someone decides not to be a life member, the overwhelming majority has experienced being shunned by the congregation members. It is not official shunning, like the Amish practice, but the situation is so awkward that those involved take the "out of sight, out of mind" route. Pastor kids are treated more delicately, as to offset the tide of resentment from pastors to whom former Berklanders often go for counseling. Former members who do not have alternative support systems, on rare occasions, abandon Christianity altogether.
2. Emotional Leverage/Love Bombing - Instant friendship, extreme helpfulness, generosity and acceptance...Group recruiters "lovingly" will not take "no" for an answer-invitations impossible to refuse without feeling guilty and/or ungrateful. "Love," "generosity," "encouragment" are used to lower defenses and create an ever increasing sense of obligation, debt, and guilt.
A resounding yes. It is especially difficult for young students to resist because they don't realize how starved they are for the tight camaraderie and close friendships that Berkland encourages. Most kids come to realize they have never experienced such closeness with kind, intelligent, like-minded people, and is especially welcome compared to the other fellowships on campus. The emotions involved are at the level of those formed when one attends a splendid summer camp where one makes a handful of lifelong friends. For Harry Potter fans, the feeling of being part of Berkland is similar to Harry's when he first arrives at Hogwarts, of finally finding a place of belonging. Asian Americans particularly feel this because America is afterall predominantly not Asian, and finding a niche is far and few between. Berkland sends out seniors to dorms who "love bomb" on the unsuspecting freshmen (emotional exploitation). Because it is viewed as ministry, seniors participate with the giving spirit of Peace Corps members (they are giving in the same manner in which they received as freshmen) and freshmen naturally reciprocate because they recognize their genuine efforts. Seniors, try telling your leaders that you don't want to do this type of ministry.
3. Exploit Personal Crisis - They use an existing crisis as a means of getting you to participate. They exploit vulnerability arising from: broken relationships, a death in the family, loss of a job, move to a new location, loneliness/depression, guilt/shame, stress/fear.
I wouldn't call going to college a crisis per se, but one's college years are very trying times during which one is the most vulnerable. Young adults are forced to grapple with many issues aside from studying. A church is supposed to help those who face crisis, and Berkland may use a crisis to pat itself on its back for being there.
4. Crisis Creation - They employ tactics designed to create or deepen confusion, fear, guilt or doubt. i.e. "you aren't serving God the way He intended." Questions areas of faith never before examined or explored and attack other faiths specifically.
Maybe. My personal experience was that when I started doubting that Berkland was the church for me, my leader started questioning my faith. But I can't say for certain that this is a collective tactic. It may well have been his honest assessment, that because I wanted to leave Berkland, my salvation was in doubt. In his own personal estimation, Berkland is the truest church (an unspoken yet pervasive view, a topic deserving its own post). Speaking of collective tactics, I am certain that Berkland leaders are directed to nonchalantly snoop around bookshelves and desk drawers. I felt ill the four times I've observed it occur.
5. All The Answers - Provide simple answers to the confusion they, themselves, create. Support these answers with material produced or "approved" by the group.
All churches encourage their members to learn Christian apologetics, which in themselves do not offer reason for faith, but offer logical responses to skeptics. While I was a member, I found myself having to defend Berkland, let alone Christianity, against it having cult-like characteristics. These allegations formally addressed by the leaders, aren't. A common way to diffuse suspicions about Berkland's cult characteristics is to openly mention it, tersely, during sermon. Everyone presumes, "Oh, they've already thought this one through. I can give them the benefit of the doubt, given the graduate degrees they hold." So no one investigates that issue any further, because they don't want to. Many realize that they have something good there, and they don't want to jeopardize it; a cursory investigation will do. "We are not a cult. Some people came over and checked us out after they received complaints about us." The allegation, made by a mother, was that her child was no longer ambitious as a result of attending Berkland. The investigating group proclaimed, "That's wonderful," congratulated Berkland for a job well done, and went off to find those churches stockpiling munitions and condoning underage marriage. Remember, the United States is a country that legally acknowledges Scientology as a religion. Other Berkland apologists frequently point to exceptions to counter allegations describing cult-like characteristics, but exceptions cannot suppress the truth of general trends, and in the case of leader arranged marriages, even a minority percentage is egregious, e.g. "leaders arrange dates and marriages > as someone who dated and got married without being arranged, I dispute this one too." from this Open Guide to Boston link.
Programming 1. Intense Study - Focus is on group doctrine and writings. Bible, if used at all, is referred to one verse at a time to "prove" group teachings.
There is Christian doctrine (from didache, Greek for "teaching"), and there is "group doctrine," that is, teachings particular to a certain group. The word doctrine means "that which is taught as a formal truth or belief of the faith." Members of the Southern Baptist Convention, as a rule, do not have catechisms or creeds, which formally lay out doctrine to prevent deviating interpretations of the Bible (the reason for so many denominations). Folks from Presbyterian backgrounds will immediately notice the absence of the recitation of the Apostle's Creed or the absence of catechisms at Berkland (although some Baptist churches adopt practices found in Presbyterian traditions). Baptists are characterized by the autonomy of the local church, and thereby adhere to local interpretations while being consistent with the general tenets of the broader Evangelical community. Being Baptist affords the convenient leeway that Berkland uses to decree transitory directives (not to confuse with "group doctrine") that leverages control over the community members. Doctrine is written down. Berkland directives, on the other hand, are accepted without being formally decreed. Leaders do not stand firm by their directives, e.g. don't date during your college years, as they are changed according to their needs and not held accountable for them when they end up being recognized as un-Biblical (owing to spiritual lapses, lack of maturity). However, when these directives are challenged by followers, they are treated as Gospel: "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you" (Hebrew 13:17) which produce such arbitrary directives, which differ from leader to leader, such as "Don't listen to Billy Joel," to the implied, "You may enjoy the Super Bowl on the Sabbath" (love of sports is their prominent claim to normalcy; most else gives cause for scrutiny). What really stands out in my memory is how they did not demand an acquiesence to God's Word, but to their leadership. I have heard that Boston students are required to attend Bible studies five times times a week, each session inordinately long. During these times, rebuke sessions would be held, to which I've been privy to, where a leader would viscerally yell for about an hour for such offenses as not calling when a leader was sick or scheduling an errand that conflicted with a Berkland activity. Only students in their 3rd year and those having demonstrated loyalty are privileged to this treatment. If you haven't been yelled into submission before, it is hard to imagine its power to change mindsets. Used also in the military, yelling is effective in training followers not to question their authority figures. I'm particularly sensitive to this because it happened to me during elementary school, where my perspective of an event was changed through yelling. You may observe fledgling Berkland staff eagarly finding any opportunity to rebuke, for the most questionable reasons. Some actually go "ape crazy," perhaps to demonstrate the sincerity of their convictions (or to convince themselves of their allegiance to Berkland). Yet their emotional outbursts merely come across as plain eerie and utlimately selfish, because their efforts merely alienate the recipient, whose spiritual health the rebuker is supposedly concerned for. Jesus reserved rebukes for the gravest situations, like in Mark 8: "But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. "Get behind me, Satan!" he said. "You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men," concerning the matter of his pending death on the cross. Indeed, the church does have the responsibility to rebuke, as stated in Titus 10: "For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group. They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain," but these rebuke sessions have also silenced other voices in the community: "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light" (1 Peter 2:9). I have personally observed that staff were chosen for their loyalty to the hieararchy, and not for their authority with the Word. I've noticed some of these were actually disinterested in the knowledge that made up their faith, and interested only in the social clan dynamics of the organization; these persons often fall back on rebuking at the slightest resistence, because they don't know the Word to find support for what they enforce. The following verse may partially explain the reckless leadership Berkland is famous for: "These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you." (Titus 2:15) Ultimately, one gets into trouble not by listening to Billy Joel per se, but for questioning the authority of the particular leader who gave you that directive. So much for the Protestant Reformation--we're back to Catholicism at Berkland Baptist. A liberal take on the verse, "You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine," (Titus 2:1) translates to do whatever Becky and Ed says, Berkland's pontiffs. And indeed, Becky does pontificate, as in this example of a creative twist to existing verses (motivated not by what is Biblical, but by what controls): "If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen"(1 John 4:20) changed to "If you cannot obey those who you can see, how can you obey the One who you cannot see?" Another creative twist of "love one another" found all over the New Testament" is "But are you being lovable?" They may very well be legitimate extrapolations from scripture, e.g. "Obey me so that my work will be a joy, not a burden," but they must be tempered by the passage in 1 Corinthians 13: "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
2. Opposer Warnings - Recruiters are told that "Satan" will cause relatives and friend to say bad things about the group to try to "steal them away from God." Recruits soon believes group members, alone, are truthful/trustworthy.
Update: actually, Becky had recently been calling various Berkland Baptist pastors and SMN's "Satan" for resisting her will. Those individuals are now part of the group that broke off from Berkland Baptist. I suppose she wouldn't waste the impact of using that label on mere relatives and friends that warn against the church.
3. Guilt and Fear - Group dwells on members' "sinful nature" (many use public confession). Guilt and fear arising from "failing God" are magnified to manipulate new member.
A resounding yes. Taken from another blog: "You'll find it pretty common to see a regular member of BBC Berkeley accept Christ 2-3 times." You can bet that these are due to a leader applying pressure. Please read the blog What's Wrong with the Berkland Baptist Church in Berkeley, California?
4. Schedule Control & Fatigue - Study and service become mandatory. New member becomes too busy to question. Family, friends, jobs and hobbies are squeezed out, further isolating the new member.
A resounding yes. My personal experience is twenty hours of church weekly, on average weeks. Boston Berkland apparently holds Bible studies five times a week, each session inordinately long. Should you complain about the schedule, you become subject to scrutiny and ostracization, all the while told that one is "free" to follow the schedule, as if it was entirely volitional. If you are not a strong student by Berkeley's standards, expect to change your major to one you didn't intend. Gifted students are coddled and given preferential treatment with respect to their study schedules.
5. Attack Independent Thought - Critical thinking is discouraged as prideful and sinful, blind acceptance encouraged.
Yes. I had been confused by a term, "Lone Ranger Christian," coined by Becky Kim to describe a person seeing himself as a Christian, but for whatever reasons not wanting to belong to a church. The "Lone Ranger Christian" is not a Christian, because in essence a Christian must belong to a church. This term had to be coined because firstly, there is no functionally equivalent term in the Bible, and secondly, she needed a pejorative term to stress the requirement for a tight, communal community, its members devoted to each other like "sticky rice grains." This is not contradictory to what the Bible and what other churches teach (Acts 4). The unspoken drawback of this call for community is the quelling of dissention and independent thought, not against the Bible, but against the Berkland community which abides by its own rules altogether. It's a simple bait and switch. Berkland takes one verse in the Bible, "All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had (Acts 4:32)," and hails it above all the other examples where one's personal relationship with God directed one's actions (please refer to Lloyd-Jones passage at the end of 'Spiritual Fodder' post). Permit me a moment to list some prominent "Lone Rangers":
  • Noah (Genesis 6), who heard only God's Voice through the jeering from his community.
  • Samuel (Samuel 3), who bravely spoke God's Word against the sons of Eli, who knew only of enjoying the privileges of their community.
  • Daniel (Daniel 6), in spite of all the privileges granted to him by his community, he listened only to God at the cost of everything.
  • Elijah (1 Kings 18), who after making fools out of the entire Baal community, sat down next to a tree and prayed that he might die.
  • Jesus, who always took time away from the crowds, was no favorite in the Jewish community. He is the archetype against the group think mentality.
My point is this: Christian individuals make Christian communities, not the other way around. Berkland does not foster the kind of people listed above; rather it rewards people who will do almost anything to satisfy what their community demands of them.
6. Divine Commission - Leader(s) claim new revelation from God, within past 200 years, in which all but their group are rejected by God. They, alone, speak for God.
No, but a pervasive view of elitism exists. Read below.
7. Absolutism - They insist on total, unquestioning obedience and submission to the group, both actions AND thoughts. Group "love" and acceptance becomes dependent upon obedience and submission. Unconditional love...isn't.
A resounding yes. Junior staff are required to submit "Weekly Reflection" emails to their leaders, who may refer to the upper ranks should they need more input. Here is a copy of a form from 2005:

Please limit this to 1-2 pages.

Adoration/Thanksgiving (Things you want to thank God for this past week.)

Confession/Personal Issues (eg. sin issues, relational conflicts (leaders, peers, spouse, parents), financial difficulties, etc)

Supplication/Ministry (Write about situations that require wisdom/guidance and/or prayer.)

Ministry Plans for this week

Personal Equipping (List how you are equipping yourself spiritually/intellectually/emotionally)

Should a staff member not do enough outreaching, or have a personal issue, a Berkland leader is involved. Given the nature of the questions, it is expected that a member consult a leader for any issues that are normally between husband and wife: "Oh, my husband hasn't been very spiritual lately." All spousal conflicts are regarded as spiritual issues, where leaders must be involved. There is accountability, and then there is complete knowledge and absolute control.
8. Totalism - "Us against them" thinking. Strengthens group identity. Everyone outside of group lumped under one label.
Yes. Even other churches are part of "them." From my overhearing of comments and conversation, the staff do not have high regard for the majority of other Bay Area/Los Angeles churches or campus groups, who do not believe to be adequate manifestations of the church as Jesus intended. The other campus faith groups, listed on http://www.jesusinberkeley.com/, do not list Koinonia (Gracepoint's campus group), nor do other East Bay churches include Berkland among its community of churches. Southern California churches spawned from Berkland schisms do not communicate with Berkland. Update: Gracepoint Fellowship makes a conscious effort to repudiate the various claims made against it over the years. Koinonia is on the list now, starting at the 2007-2008 academic year. It's uncertain whether this is reflective of genuine change or something positioned to provide a defense.
Retention 1. Motive Questioning- When sound evidence against the group is presented, members are taught to question the motivation of the presenter. The verifiable (sound documentation) is ignored because of doubts over the unverifiable (presenter's motives). See Opposer Warnings (#2 above).
A resounding yes. My anonymity is partially motivated by this factor. Back in the day when my identity was known, my complaints against Berkland were dismissed because people were able to come up with convincing (albeit false) ulterior motives that weakened my arguments. To reveal my identity would be exposing myself to personal attack, and while there is not much to dredge up for anyone to mudsling, it certainly restricts the freedom to write what needs to be stated. Admittedly anonymity weakens the integrity of the blog's content, but that is the tradeoff I am willing to make. Berkland staff are experts in hunting for weaknesses or skeletons in closets (a la John Grisham's The Firm). The collective directive to nonchalantly search through bookshelves and drawers may have been done to find evidence for things to dredge up against former members after they leave (racy magazines, cigarettes, etc.). I personally observed the character assassination of a former member after she left, whose personal details, confessed in confidence, were divulged to whomever inquired. The college staff are not chosen for their magnanimity, but for their ability to stomach and follow through with the most sordid of directives.
2. Information Control - Group controls what convert may read or hear. They discourage (forbid) contact with ex-members or anything critical of the group. May say it is the same as pornography making it not only sinful and dangerous but shameful as well. Ex-members become feared and avoidance of them becomes a "survival issue."
A resounding yes. Their attempts at information control can be Orwellian. The leaders share everything with each other about the personal affairs/conversations of their followers, from what they observe on the street, on the church grounds, and that told in confidence by students themselves, all the while guarding their own private affairs. This "surveillance network" becomes apparent over time because the staff are not trained to disguise their tells. An example of Berkland information control comes from the Korean department, where an adultery scandal broke out. A hush job was attempted by Becky, as it concerned a relative, but the attempt itself is telling of her double standard on transparency and abuse of authority. Additionally, Becky and staff prided in their spiritual discernment, and the fact that it happened right under their noses shattered their reputation for infallibility. Berkland frequently make use of character assassinations of former members, with unproven presumptions ("well-intentioned" slander), all the while beseeching their followers to give the staff "the benefit of the doubt". Acting as cautionary tales, these post-departure assassinations really put the fear of Berkland into the hearts of remaining members. I believe certain staff recognize this as bad and try to stem the rumors that erupt from departures, except when Becky openly uses such material to make an example during her Bible studies. Now this is not a problem that only Berkland faces. It's just sinful behavior found in all organizations. The point in bringing this up is just that: Berkland is no exception in the mold of human institutions.
3. Isolation, Separation & Alienation - Group becomes substitute family. Members encouraged to drop worldly (non-members) friends. May be told to change jobs, quit school, give up sports, hobbies, etc.
Yes. Members are reminded that it is always of their own choice that they do, even as they are directed to do them. "Why don't you just leave," is a popular ultimatum and not used sparingly. "People think we live in a Christian ghetto. I encourage you to make non-Christian friends." After a couple of years, Berkland takes control of how you spend your time and who you spend that time with. There is no time for people outside of Berkland. But with his disclaimer above, the monkey's off their shoulders, and the church itinerary handles the rest.
4. Coercion - Disobedience, including even minor disagreement with group doctrine, may result in expulsion and shunning.
A resounding yes. Experienced first-hand. Have an important exam and want to skip out on a Berkland activity? Be prepared to for the cold shoulders by your peers later, and a possible talk with your leader. For those who leave, the ostracization is shocking because it is such a contrast to the "love bombing" one first encounters. The same people who were so kind don't even meet your stares on campus once you leave the church. Once word gets around that you left, in their minds you're branded a traitor, at the very least. This comment, taken from the blog What's wrong with the Berkland Baptist Church in Berkeley, California? is a common experience that occurs despite the leaders admonitions to stop behaving in this manner:
I thought that I had made some "eternal" relationship in Christ there. But when I left, all my class "sisters" basically cut off all contact with me. Now when I see some of them around they treat me like some kind of of pariah, or at the very least they look down their noses at me.
This behavior is not due to any directive from the leaders, but a natural byproduct of the unspoken "us versus them" mentality fostered at Berkland. The leaders wipe their hands of the business, finding fault in the students for their own warped behavior. I disagree. Many unspoken conclusions are made in the minds of its members which the leaders can't take account and leave unchecked. As Becky says, God may act through circumstance; if He should bless you with the opportunity to attend Berkland and you refuse it, students can't help but conclude that the salvation of those who depart are suspect.
5. Phobias - The idea is planted that anyone who leaves goes into a life of depravity and sin, loses their sanity, dies, or will have children die, etc. Constant rumors of bad things happening to people who leave. No one ever leaves for "legitimate reasons."
Sometimes. There are people who just leave without incident. However I can't help but feel that the Berkland congregation actually is encouraged, uplifted, and blessed by news of tragedy befalling former members, in spite of what they are told to feel, because it is in the nature of such an "us versus them" group. Also, because it is a church that presents the Bible squarely, critics are conflicted and wonder by opposing Berkland they are in essence opposing God. Admittedly, it's a tough call. I present here a rather kind example of a warning to a departing member, taken from the blog Berkland Baptist Church is not a cult but it is still messed up:
P Lee confronted me about deciding not to stick around indefinitely. He made a prediction which I later regarded as a curse upon me: You will always be moving around, never staying in a place for more than a few years. You will not affect or influence anybody, except maybe your wife if you ever get married.
Lee doesn't realize that the best two things about Berkland is the preaching (the presentation of God's Word through Ed and Becky's gifts of oration) and the comfort in having a place of belonging. The influence the Berkland staff provides, that is policing, is not something one should really point to as reason for committing.
6. Striving for the Unreachable - Group membership and service are essential for salvation..."Work your way into God's favor." NO matter what you do, it is never enough.
If asked, the official answer is that one does not have to be baptized at Berkland Baptist to be saved. However, given the low regard they have for other churches, any baptism at other churches is questionable at best. As I mentioned earlier, the unspoken, pervasive view among the staff is that theirs is the most true church.

Conclusion: Berkland Baptist, as I knew it, was an aberrant and abusive Christian church. The overwhelming opinion indicates Berkland is not "cultic," on the basis that its theology is correct. What I learned later was that the correctness of theology does not translate to correct and proper leadership and governance.

Berkland is a reaction to the weaknesses of the Korean American church: the majority of members do not take ownership of their churches; they participate enough to get what they want out of church (e.g. people to go their special life events, which includes marriage, funerals, baptisms), and leave the rest of the important work to a handful that comprise of the core; members tend not to invest in their relationships within the church, because like all investments, they want to invest in something secure and with high returns, but often times people go and leave as they please; congregations are also known to split over money or leadership issues, not over doctrinal issues; people are generally prestige whores, and parade their affluence in the same manner as non-Christians; the social atmosphere tends to verge on the worldly; pastoral positions do not attract the best and brightest, etc. Berkland feels like the only true church in the context of this cultural background, because chances are that home churches pale by comparison.

I do believe God does work through certain individuals in the Berkland community, because they follow Christ, not Berkland. In that respect, Berkland Baptist is just like any other church. It is a mistake to believe that genuine faith arising within Berkland legitimizes the bad things that it does.

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

well considered thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Whenever I think about my experience at Berkland, I always have these clashing emotions of love and hate. Thanks for writing.

Anonymous said...

There might be some who might deny the veracity of your factual claims after reading your post. I attended Berkland during my four years at Cal and then some. Some of the names you mention only stir a vague recollection, so it may be that I was at Berkland some years prior to your coming to the group, but your account is consistent with my experience. All but for the kindness exercised by seniors. I remember the older fellows at Berkland to be more interested in commiting to the Berkland system and to getting into graduate programs than being genuinely concerned for the underclassmen.

I left Berkland years ago. But the experience stays with you. I was actually pretty sore at Berkland after I left, refering to the group as Borg-land (as in, "you will be assimilated") among the few non-Berkland buddies I had. And then I tried to cling to the precious few positive memories of my years there.

Nowadays, I will occasionally meet other ex-Berklanders and join them in a good laugh at their recounting of rebuking sessions where buddies broke down in tears or in noting the similarities between the Berkland "Christian Celebrations" and a North Korean pageant. I had hoped Pastor Ed would change the way Berkland was run. But by your account and others, he maintained the status quo.

Even now, I can't shake my sense that there was a certain degree of contempt on the part of the main leadership of the college ministry for the students that filled it. Even now, I can't reconcile my belief that some individuals in positions of leadership demanded forbearance in areas where they themselves indulged. Even now, so many years after leaving the group, I'm drawn to the voices of those who had experiences similar to mine.

You make some insightful observations. And I hope that, more than the casual critic of Berkland, that those who genuinely made an attempt to join and serve but could not, would find your page, here, and read and find some comfort.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

your post is well thought out and seems poignant. I'm sorry to play devil's advocate, but I am always one to consider both sides of the story.

Would you please write maybe another blog on what is a non-cult, good church and what kind of characteristics they should have?

Also, do you believe that a church should try to be like the church in Acts 2? I am a Christian myself, and I am curious as to your thoughts, since you seem to have thought this out pretty deeply.

It would help us all out I think.

Thank you in advance.

Anonymous said...

"both sides of the story..." I think hamcycle did a pretty good job in presenting the Berkland viewpoint. If you think there's more behind it, I think it would be quite reasonable to contact a member of Berkland.

"non-cult, good church..." This almost seems like a set-up where the burden is placed on hamcycle to articulate the perfect church to which someone could retort "well, there is no such perfect church" or "even your ideal church falls short of the biblical standard."

"curious as to your thoughts..." Choosing a church should not be a mere curiosity. I encourage you to look carefully and prayerfully into churches. If you've read Acts as you mentioned, then you should have a pretty good idea. If you are enjoying the worship, the fellowship and your Christian growth while your Bible-believing church is training you to be a humble servant and a witness to the unsaved, you're probably in a safe place. I'm sure some Berklanders can state that in the affirmative about their lives at Berkland. To that, I would say that they've found the right church for themselves.

Perhaps, anonymous, I'm misled by the way that you've written your comment and I hope that I haven't offended.

By the way, who is the "us" in "It would help us all out."

Sorry to make this into a forum. Feel free to delete if you're trimming the comment thread.

Anonymous said...

hi,

this is a followup response to the previous post...

i'm just a doubter by nature (good or bad...) and i just wanted to see what a definition of a good, non-cult church is by the blogger's definition.

i personally feel like it would be good for all the readers of this blog (which I meant by "us all") to help distinguish what a good church is, b/c I think some characteristics of a good church can be shared with a cult even.

hamcycle said...

I really appreciate your question "9/21/2006 9:09 PM," and fortunately it is one that I've considered and am still considering. It's the fourth blog entry entitled 'Then What's a Good Church'.

As for "9/20/2006 10:42 PM," I also left Berkland years ago, but finally decided to create this blog in order to convince someone I know not join Berkland. Recent blogs seem to indicate Berkland hasn't changed much, so I felt a responsibility to inform others of my observations and experience.

hamcycle said...

9/21/2006 6:14 PM shares with me the same trait of dissecting plain comments to an array of potential motivations, which tells me this person truly is an ex-Berklander :) because competent staff members more than often boldly use red-herring disclaimers when there are more practical explanations as to why certain things are done. For example, if leaders would decide to categorize students into groups A and B, it would be clear that group A would consist of the unquestioning, whereas group B would consist of the lesser. A typical explanation for this move was that the division was random, or that it was merely done to delegate leadership between two leaders.

Anonymous said...

Had I the opportunity to edit my previous posts, I would have extended a greater measure of grace. Perhaps another earmark of being an ex-Berklander. An object of that tough berkland-love for the years I was there and feeling a bit raw after I left.

Hamcycle, I should make it clear to you as you are host to this forum, that your post here is important. And you've taken the time to quote Berkland leadership accurately and, I believe, to account for what happens at Berkland without embellishment.

You even note the particular rhetorical manipulation and bullying that I found to be the core of my objections from a personal and Biblical perspective while I was there.

Your decision to methodically consider the "characteristics" of Berkland is helpful. Berkland would consider these "tools." And given the longevity and the geographical coverage of the ministry, these tools have made Berkland successful.

Another ex-Berklander post mentions his upset at Berkland not moving toward multi-ethnic ministry. Frankly, I think the tools applied by Berkland are particularly effective with Asians. I look at my class at Berkland who were nearly all Berkeley students. We were probably admitted to Berkeley because we subjected ourselves to authority and subsumed other interests to goals set by our parents. I've observed that Berkland ministries flourish at highly ranked universities. Ministries at the Cal State Universities and junior colleges have been historically small and dwindling despite many attempts to stoke the fires of ministry at those schools.

It would be a shame if people came here to just smear Berkland and, to some, I may be guilty of that. Yet I can't imagine what I write here as being a stumbling block to Christians considering Berkland. Christian to christian, the consideration of the means by which we execute the commission to share the gospel is of no small importance.

Okay, another long post. Feel free to trim.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering.. does anyone know about why the Berkland branches are becoming autonomous of one another and will no longer be called ABSK?

hamcycle said...

From what I've read from other blogs, the "Asian," "Baptist," and "Student" were needlessly restrictive.

I can offer a guess as to why the branches are now autonomous: to be part of the Southern Baptist Convention, member churches must be governed locally and autonomously (it's part of their definition). Membership in the SBC is Berkland's badge of legitimacy. Same reason why Becky JDSN is still a JDSN: women can't be pastors in the SBC.

Anonymous said...

The split up isn't as innocuous as that. There was a falling out between the bay area pastors (Pastor Ed and Pastor Chris) and the rest of the Berkland pastoral staff. To protect them, and the church's reputation, Pastor Paul said all the churches would go autonomous as the cover-up explanation. But really, Pastors Ed and Chris think Becky JDSN is leading the church astray and has become too controlling. How's that for the pot calling the kettle black. The Berkeley automatons were calling their "peers" at other berkeleys to tell them to leave those churches and return to berkeley because they were "concerned" about their spiritual welfare. Check out how BBC Davis even changed its name from Berkland.

Anonymous said...

Whoa. Davis BBC has indeed changed its name. I stated elsewhere that Berkland was monolithic. I stand corrected. I hope the vulnerable are not harmed by the fallout.

Anonymous said...

Ed Kang and Chris Pak were never blind Becky JDSN followers. Chris Pak would often speak publicly of how he disagreed with her when he was in college. But all the same, Ed and Kelly Kang, and their progeny, are the most controlling people I have ever met with their heavy-handed way of telling you who you are and what you think, and why you're wrong. I hope that through this, the folks at Berkland, especially the ones in Berkeley, learn to think for themselves. Somehow I doubt it though.

Anonymous said...

It would be very good to know exactly how the two anonymous posters from 10/03/2006 8:27 PM and 10/03/2006 2:07 PM know what they know. I don't want to impugn any posts here. But the details given purport a close source. For instance, how the sides have divided and how Chris Pak challenged Becky JDSN's authority in college.

That said, details of that scandal in the Korean department started to leak out before an official mea culpa was issued to address the discord that was brewing.

Anonymous said...

What the anonymous posters say it true. Ed, Chris -- disagreed with everybody else. To this day, they are not communicating.

Ed Kang and the Berkeley church are blind to themselves. It's tragic.

But God is the ultimate judge.

Anonymous said...

Shrill and insensitive. Perhaps proof Apostle Paul was speaking/writing in the spirit when he wrote that little bit about women in church leadership. But crazy? Your blog here is important. It lays out the common experiences of displaced Berklanders in a way that no one thus far has. Important enough that the epithets may detract from the meticulous and thoughtful nature of your blog. But, hey, this is your house.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I was referring to the aforementioned Becky JDSN when I wrote "shrill and insensitive." The full sentence that followed was in regard to the position she inhabits.

I recall the months after I left Berkland. I was a beast ready to lash out. A Berklander could have easily pointed a finger and rightfully said that I was miserable. With all those heavy feelings, it took a while for me to actually appreciate my freedom and even longer to see and appreciate God's grace.

Something in your recent deleted comments made me recall those days. I certainly cannot condemn you for the sentiments you expressed.

Anonymous said...

I guess it's official-- BBC Berkeley is changing its name to Gracepoint Fellowship Church on 10/22. This breakup stirred up a lot of sadness for me, which surprises me because I thought I had firmly moved on from my Berkland days. I left Berkland a long time ago and had a lot of anger and resentment toward Pastor Ed and other leaders, and my "peers" for that matter. But I also have a lot of good memories and am grateful for many of the lessons and spiritual foundations that I received. When I think of the spiritual heritage of the church, and the spirit with which Pastor Paul and Becky jdsn founded the church and passed on to the younger generations, this feels like such an affront to everything that was preached about being the Family of God.

One of my chief complaints about Pastor Ed is the cult of personality that developed around him. I often felt that his vision of the church only applied to the certain types of people that he preferred. I fear how his church is becoming all the more isolated now. At least he had the other pastors to check him and hold him accountable in the past.

Berkland by a different name feels like the death of something that was pretty special in the past. Anyway, I just had this heavy heartedness that I needed to unload to others who have gone through the same experience. Thanks for reading.

Anonymous said...

you are right on about your feelings regarding the breakup. the family of god was what was set berkland apart. sad to say that even the family of god, like all families, is dysfunctionl

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the blog. But sadly you are still unaware of the reasons for recent controversies, what Berkland, especially Boston, DC, Irvine, etc., are trying to cover up. If you are serious about helping people I suggest you begin investigating the contents of Pastor Ed's letter to Becky JDSN.

Anonymous said...

To "ICH BIN EX BERKLANDER:"

Do you have an email address? I would like to write you via email. YOur testimony touched me, and the time and energy you spent on writing this commentary were very appreciated.

Anonymous said...

I am the writer who just asked Hamcycle for an email. I also wish to say that the defection of what was the original Berkland and the split between Ed and Kelly Kang from Rebekah Kim is a stunner to me. I remember them from my time there, years ago, and I never would have imagined that they would have had a fall-out. If anything, Rebekah and Ed were not only in leadership positions, but they seemed to work so well together.

If anything, if I were to try and imagine how Rebekan and Paul Kim must feel after seeing the building they toiled to make theirs (they first found that building in 1981 and it became theirs after many years) must have been very painful. I have no doubt that there is still love between these parties... it's just so sad when Christians and churches split. I just never thought it would've happened at Berkland, where the leadership always seemed so permanently monolithic and unified.

Anonymous said...

To the guy who wrote about Pastor Ed's letter to Becky JDSN... WHAT do you knwo about it? How would you know? Something this major, I imagine, wouldn't have been disclosed to the "rank and file" membership; not in details anyway.

Anonymous said...

Hamcycle watch out! They want to get in contact with you to try to shut you down.

Anonymous said...

They will pose as sympathetic readers. Get your contact information to slander you.

Anonymous said...

HamCycle,

Some people are getting nervous because the truth is beginning to leak.

And to the person who is asking, what makes you think that the person writing about Ed's letter is a guy? Let me guess. You are a male staff at east coast BBC monitoring blogs. Why don't you go rebuke someone while we heal.

HexGrid

Anonymous said...

Hamcycle and others,

Since some of you suspect I am a Berklander who is "infiltrating" this page, I'll hereby begin calling myself Orangehead. That way you'll know it's me.

Hamcycle,

I will soon write you a long email which will show you I am not a Berklander.

Hexgrid,

Some of the comments in this blog call what Berkland does "spiritual rape." I have gone through this kind of abuse, albeit in a most probably weaker form - at another church, unaffiliated to Berkland. What I will share here is that my experience at Berkland was different from the ones you guys had for a variety of reasons; I will not disclose them here because if word got to certain Berkland leaders of my circumstances, I would be easily identifiable.

I can't say I have the same anger at them that you guys do, but I do have my own anger at a former church leader whom I trusted and who betrayed me after I left (by breaking promises of confidence).

So, I hope this puts to rest your suspicions that I am a Berklander staff. I am not, and I pray and hope you guys heal. If anything, I'm very sad that Berkland has ended up hurting so many people. I can only speculate that several, if not all, of you guys, attended Berkland at a time way after I myself had already departed.

God bless,

Orangehead

Anonymous said...

Why does Rebekah Kim never talk about her spiritual background, the shepherd who discipled her, the churches she left in Korea? Has anyone ever heard her talk about this? Isn't it queer that while members are pressured to give homage to their leaders she never credits anyone? Who rebuked Rebekah the rebuker into being?

HexGrid

Anonymous said...

There is a letter from Ed to ALL the pastors, not just Becky.

Trouble has been brewing for almost 10 years. The recently division was brewing for 2 years.

Ed thinks he's 100% in the right when he was part of the wrong. My guess is that his church is still perpetrating MANY of these wrongs underneath the new name and new veil of change.

Becky thinks she's 100% correct. My guess is that her church (mind you, not Paul Kim's church) is also unbending in its ways.

Humility is missing on both camps. It's a shame. And both sides will have to deal with the aftermath being aggressively confrontational and wrongly motivated (Ed) and, conversely, of hiding the truth (Becky). Both sides of the leadership are unrepentant which has been the mark of Berkland since its birth.

Anonymous said...

I didn't know an entire community of people hurt by BBC existed out there. It blows my mind that ed kang and company refuse to own up to the fact that they have caused so much emotional and spiritual damage in so many people's lives. I know several people (including myself) who have never healed from the scars of bbc - there's still a part of me that thinks that by leaving berkland, I decided to leave God, even though the rational part of me says that BBC is not equivalent to God.
I don't think one ever really fully recovers from the abuse inflicted by certain berkland leaders. I almost feel as if there should be a church just for healing ex-Berklanders, or at least some type of mass therapy session.
i grew up in berkland, back when it was a small church at alcatraz. I played with rebekah the rebuker's daughter and knew ed kang when he was still a skinny and pale korean kid. i knew them when they were still normal people, before both rebekah and ed grew into cult figures (whether by their own doing or not). I think back then they still related to the general humanity. I don't know when either of them started to believe that God showed "special" favor on them, that their beliefs were the RIGHT belief (aka God's will). I think as their popularity and congregations grew, they lost touch with the essence of Jesus - his compassion for humanity, his humility, his message of love and forgiveness. I'm not refuting that they PREACH AND TEACH these characteristics, just that they fail to practice them.
Reading all these posts are therapeutic, yet maddening. I want to confront all of those leaders who damaged so many of my friends and myself and tell them what they have done. Yet I know not a single one of them would be apologetic, so strongly do they believe that they are in the right.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone read Pastor Ed's letter to the pastors? What does it say? Anyone have a copy?

Anonymous said...

No, the letter was addressed to Becky JDSN but sent to all the top pastors. It was addressed to her but was intended for the other pastors to read.

Hexgrid

Anonymous said...

I have read it, and it mainly reveals that Ed doesn't mind casting the first (and last) stones and Rebekah has some serious psychological and moral issues. I agree with the previous comment that both of them are pathetic human beings.

Anonymous said...

This letter that supposedly proclaims Pastor Ed's independence from the queen is certainly a compelling mystery. Even if there wasn't a letter, there should have been full disclosure to the congregation as to the reasons for such a significant change in the church. This letter theory suggests that there were reasons beyond what was released for general consumption. Curious.

Another question the break-up raises: After decades under Becky JDSN's authority, why would the leaders of Berkland Berkeley decide to move toward independence now?

The secrecy leads us to conjecture and piece together as much as we can. Frankly--and this is only my opinion--I think it was a matter of personalities than a matter of doctrinal parting. Becky is as Becky was. If she began to lean toward unorthodoxy, other Berkland ministries, in Seattle and in Southern California, would have left the fold as well.

It isn't as if Pastor Ed's convictions are in a state of formation, and he just began to realize the faults of Becky JDSN. It isn't as if Pastor Ed doesn't know to be faithful to the founders. He weathered an earlier scandal involving a member of the founding family and still remained a Berklander.

Knowing Pastor Ed to love his family above his affiliations at Berkland, I can't help but think this is fall-out from Becky rebuking Kelly SMN. This is unsubstantiated, of course. But if you've been a member of Berkland for more than, say, 5 years, tell me that this doesn't sound as plausible as anything else you've been presented with.

Give them credit where it's due: they're not fighting it out old-school style for the property on Alcatraz and Becky JDSN isn't sending out flying monkeys to prop up a new Berkland in the same area.

Good to see your blog and you back in the dialogue, Hamcycle.

Anonymous said...

The letter was written by Ed because he felt Becky JDSN was persistently misrepresenting his concerns, so he wanted it written and circulated among the pastors who would be able to confirm its contents. One of its accusations is that Becky JDSN says one thing one moment but says exactly the opposite because she thinks, and has consistently taught that love covers up a multitudes of truths. Most of the world would call her behavior chronic lying, although she would characterizing it as protecting her sheep from truths they can't handle.

Anonymous said...

Thank you to those who are willing to share the stray bits of info that have escaped the hermetic seal of the Saturday evening staff meetings.

I can't help but think that the chickens have come home to roost. In other areas of hamcycle's blog and the respective comments, the utilitarian mindset of Berkland leadership is discussed. At Berkland, they don't let paltry things as facts get in the way of the truth. If Pastor Ed indeed cited the lack of integrity in Becky JDSN's language, that loosey-gooseyness with the facts isn't something new at Berkland.

Facts? Reason? Why, what good are these when you have the convenience of rhetorical bludgeoning to keep things in order. I knew Pastor Ed and I knew him to love reason. If I can fault him for anything, it is that he subsumed that quality I admired much in him to be subject to Becky JDSN's authority. Not just for a moment but for these many, many years.

That almost characteristic recklessness with language and the truth has not been entirely purged with the name change. See the discussion at another author's blog (one of hamcycle's links) and you will see a well-trained Berkland apologist pull all the fallacies from your freshman English handbook and attempt to pass them off as reason. He does it with such assuredness, I found myself thinking he may have had a point.

Anonymous said...

How did you leave? Were you --- or do you know anyone-- that was married at the time? I need some help and prayer in this process.

Anonymous said...

The physical act of leaving, or in my case, just not going anymore, was surprisingly easy. I still remember the first Sunday that I decided not to go... and it turned out to be very anticlimatic. No angry rebukes, no leaders showing up at the door. Just one short phone call from the leader, a couple "what's ups" from the roomies, and that was it.

In other words, I think it's a bigger deal to us who leave, than to those we leave behind. I think it's because my decision to leave was a year in the making, and it didn't surprise anyone. I noticed that the leadership will let you go if you want to go, even if you're married.

There are definitely some awkward moments, like if your spouse is having the small group over. And there's the eerie sense that you're being prayed over by your spouse's small group and leaders, and that your salvation and repentance is a topic in the weekly prayer requests for the church. But, my best advice is not to waste time lingering in the gray zone on the fence, and take the leap into freedom.

Anonymous said...

Most people seem to agree that it isn't a cult...but would it be considered "aberrant"?

http://www.neirr.org/s7-aber2.html

Anonymous said...

The previous comment illustrates perhaps one of the problems with the use of labels. Hamcycle, you were careful in giving a thorough explanation of what an aberrant church looks like. But just the word "aberrant" might have different meanings to different people and it opens the discussion about Berkland to an argument about semantics.

So, if you're a college student that recently left Berkland, don't start throwing around "aberrant" in a discussion without clearly indicating why you believe Berkland to be such a thing. Berkland has loud apologists who reason poorly. We should not follow that example in presenting our arguments.

Speaking of arguments, I've had a chance to read some of the comments posted by current Berklanders at the other ex-Berklander blogs. All, save one (from Boston BBC maybe), come across in a distinctively Berkland way. It is as if the rules of logic and reasoning take a second seat to the position being supported.

I'm not saying that they lack reason. But it's a peculiar way of reasoning that they employ. Read them carefully and you will note that they will not consider reasonable arguments against their positions and will not accept something as factual if those facts were mentioned against Berkland. They will stretch to sustain their defense of Berkland, even when Scripture and numerous accounts of ex-Berklanders condemn certain elements of Berkland.

Some will shift the burden of persuasion on the ex-Berklander (by itself, not unreasonable), construct that burden to be heavier than it should be and claim that the ex-Berklander's argument to be insufficient when it doesn't go through all the hoops he has set.

It's strange that only a very few Berklanders will even admit to some of the factual accounts, the type mentioned in hamcycle's blog and others. Remember how those who found themselves Gracepointers after the split would mention the misdeeds of Becky only after the church claimed independence? To what depths were those ideas buried when they were all part of the Berkland family?

I suppose we can easily dismiss those Berklander posts as the thought process of someone who convinced himself that Berkland can do no wrong. But I think it may be more complex than that. Perhaps it can be described as a mode of persuasion that's implemented at Berkland. Not quite true "reasoning" which guides individuals to the truth. Instead, more like pushing people to a truth chosen for them.

Maybe I'm just saying in a different way what the comments above and hamcycle's blog have already stated. But reading those Berklanders' comments made me realize how Berkland members take on the particular persuasive style of their leaders.

Anonymous said...

To the comments immediately above:

Please give us concrete accounts. All your talk about "persuasion,"
"constructing the burden of argument," "people reason poorly" don't mean much if you don't provide us with facts. What did Ed Kang exactly say to you? Give us just one such example of him "not considering reasonable arguments against his position and will not accept something as factual if those facts were mentioned against his church. He will stretch to sustain their defense of his church, even when Scripture and numerous accounts of ex-Berklanders condemn certain elements of his church." Please educate us.

Anonymous said...

To the writer immediately above, you need to begin your argument by reading the post you are addressing with a little more care.

Okay. Have you read it a second or third time? First, you will note that the post does not mention Pastor Ed at all. You sound very much like the members of Ed's immediate biological family who want to believe that his Gracepoint has done no wrong.

That's your argument to make in response to others who have stated otherwise.

Pastor Ed is no fool. He argues reasonably when he chooses to present arguments in a reasonable manner.

There are three blogs that are extensive in the recounting of Berkland and Gracepoint abuses. You should address those comments that actually mention Pastor Ed when you go into that give-me-concrete-examples-of-his-abuses line of argument.

I understand your desire to preserve the reputation of Pastor Ed. I did, too, when I left Berkland. Even at that time, I wanted to believe he did not fall in completely with Becky's bunch. But that letter Pastor Ed wrote is pretty damning not only to Becky's abuses, but to Pastor Ed's involvment. When I think about how Pastor Ed articulates his servitude to Becky, the relationship reeks of something unbiblical and bizarre.

That said, again, I don't see anything in the post you address that mentions Pastor Ed.

You should have noticed on your second reading that "Gracepoint" is hardly mentioned. If you want to defend Gracepoint while condemning Berkland, then you will have to be a more careful reader and a more mindful writer.

The reasons for the Gracepoint-Berkland split were shrouded to the public. Whatever declaration Gracepoint leaders felt they have made regarding their renunciation past Berkland abuses, hasn't really been made to the even their own congregation. So you will have to forgive some of the commenters here if they lump Gracepoint and Berkland together.

And you will need to carefully discern whether it is Berkland or Gracepoint or both that is being criticized.

hamcycle said...

specific examples will reveal the identity of the blogger. Berkland keeps a record of information told in confidence to staff, which will consequently will be disclosed to discredit the blogger.

does it discredit the veracity of the claims? Yes.

will the nonspecific language be affirming to those having had similar experiences? Yes, because those to whom these accounts are directed to know exactly what's being talked about.

if you are a Berklander demanding proof of these accusations, these blogs weren't written to address you, nor are you even considered a part of the dialogue.

i will make an ass of myself by making this comparison: in the movie, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," a certain Senator Paine compromised with his conscience to become a stooge for a politcal boss named Jim Taylor. Having made the initial compromise, he was determined to be bound to Jim Taylor until his dying day. This is what some people refer to as "growing up." But after seeing the naive Jefferson Smith refuse to make the same compromise, and see him get destroyed for it, Paine's conscience drove him mad and broke him down.

If you've ever read Ed's letter, it basically paints the same picture. Not sure whether there is any one particular Jefferson Smith; I believe there had been many. Those who consulted with him in private basically spoke to a sink hole. To think that hwa-toh is what finally got him to draw the line is very unlikely.

Like Paine, Ed deserves credit for finally breaking down, and is more credit worthy than any of his stooges I will not identify by name. Theletter doesn't relinquish him from his sins, especially because he continues to deny them in public.

There was a post by someone (after split), who confronted Ed for certain abuses, to which he replied (paraphrased from memory), "If such things occurred, you should have consulted me. It was your fault for not bringing it to my attention."

I can't determine the veracity of this claim, nor know the true context of which it was said, so it's not really the proof you may be seeking. But the recounting of others with similar accounts may help substantiate it. I offer my own, where after I listed what I thought were wrong, Ed assuring me, "It's not as if I haven't thought these things already." The main substantiation comes from Ed's letter, where he stated that people do not regard him a fool and entrust in him much, trust we now know were undeserved.

Anonymous said...

To the kind commenter at 4/19/2008 10:24 AM:

As you asked for an education, I will say your post is a very good example of the mixed-up logic of some of Berkpoint's apologists.

Or were you genuinely confused about whether you were a Berklander or a Gracepointer?

Look, there are plenty of personal accounts. Are you suggesting that they are fabricated? How many people have come to you to deny that those events ever happened. How many have said that the accounts of those events were gross misperceptions? On which side does the preponderance of the evidence sit?

As for the poor reasoning of the defenders of the Berkland faith you need only to read through the comments at the blogs to see others who have come to the defense of Berkland. They are there for your analysis and pleasure. Don't ask me to summarize them and reward you for your laziness. Really, it's not that much to read. You probably read much more in a day's worth of reading for your classes.

You will, at some point, have to decide whether you will side with the Berklanders and defend Berkland or take the side of those who spoke to the abuses at Berkland, which by a strange course of events, includes Pastor Ed.

Decide. If you trust Pastor Ed to have spoken truth in his letter to Becky, then there were indeed abuses perpetrated by those in leadership. Pastor Ed paints a rather hideous portrait of Becky and the organization beneath her. Apparently, there are Berkland pastors who disagree and who have decided to remain loyal to Becky.

Examine your own post and see if you are not merely reframing the argument but reconstructing it to terms created solely for your convenience. Examine if you have not put the burden on the writer of the comment you are responding to when the evidence is there in the blogs and comments, equally accessible to those who can view those sites.

Perhaps, the failure in your argument to keep things straight is a symptom of beliefs not fully examined. Something to consider. Or does it sprout from the fact that Gracepoint leadership has not done a full accounting to clarify for themselves and to others what portion of Berkland's legacy they will keep and what they will discard.

Anonymous said...

i posted before (im an upperclassman here)and aside from all this berkland/gracepoint/becky v. Ed stuff, this really articulated what I've been observing.

"The atmosphere of UBF nurtures hypocrisy, particularly among the growing children of the UBF members, but also among the adult members. If you keep up appearances, take part in all events, fulfill all your duties and the dress regulations, everything will be all right and you will get recognition – even if your inner life may look dark. Conversely, if you feel inner peace with God and your conscience, you frequently are rebuked and accused nevertheless"

Anonymous said...

I know this post is one of the older ones, but I feel obligated to post some facts I've experienced or gathered, specifically about Kelly Kang that I believe were an abuse of her power and authority, and have harmed people. And I believe this is the post appropriate of the posts that hamcycle has written.

I post this with the genuine hope that there would be change in the leadership's attitude, starting with Kelly and to a good extent, Pastor Ed. I haven't been there in a long time, but I would not be suprised if all remained essentially the same.

I write the following with the intent of trying to adhere to the facts, and not exaggerate.

I believe the following events are familiar with most gracepointers/berklanders.

1. As posted in the Toxic Faith blog, Kelly Kang once was upset that no one called her and took care of her while she was sick. As a result, small groups were convened by their leaders, and each was asked why he or she did not call or email or stop by. Also, people were asked, as described in the post, who Kelly Kang was to them. This was a double-edged question, as if we answered that we cared about her, and that she was our spiritual leader and mother, we would be accused of not living it out. If we stated that we didn't know exactly how sick she was (I mean, we've all been sick in our lives!), we would have been called apathetic and unloving.

She has never apologized for calling such a meeting of small groups, although it is clearly wrong.

In "the letter" to Becky Kim, Pastor Ed accused Becky of being nacissistic. I think there was clear narcissism here in the incident with his wife, at the cost of spiritually damaging the church members. I believe that she should have applied what she has said to others before "If you need help, then ask". She didn't. I've heard that even recently, she still asserted, "Well, I was really really sick!". The implication there is that if she's really really sick, then people should really really magically read her mind and know, and be right there to take care of her.

2. Once it was Kelly's birthday, and many people went out of their way to bake many goodies for her. Of course, the idea originated from one of the older leaders, and of course, by means of hierarchy, practically all of the staff baked something. After service, the goodies were all laid out on tables. People were busy eating, fellowshipping, and such. However, apparently, not many people tried to make personal conversation with Kelly herself, at least from her perspective. The reality could be that many were afraid of her. The end result was that she made it known during her staff meetings afterwards that people were not personally making effort to talk with her. Instead of being thankful that so many went out of their way to bake the goods, she complained. Again, this is narcissism.


3. I do not recall if it was in the same year, but people once again were convened - this time to ask, "why didn't you give a card or send email to Kelly for her birthday?" Apparently, a significant amount of people had not. They framed it as the need to root out awkwardness in relationships. Each individual in the small group setting was asked. Kelly should have questioned if there was something about her own personality and character that cause others to be awkward around her. But the blame instead was cast upon the church members. Again, narcissism.

4. Up to a certain year, people were expected to send her a Mothers Day card. Why? Because she was the spiritual mother of the church. Is that even biblical? But if one did not, of course, that person was noticed as not being grateful.

5. Kelly believes that she has a simple solution for everyone's spiritual problem. It's either because they have not consistently written out the mandated daily devotional worksheets, or because they have not read their bible enough, or prayed enough. Surely, if one does that, they would not struggle with sin. She is not a good listener, but rather questions the motives of the individual sharer, often placing the blame back upon the person. This kind of "counseling" is horrible and detrimental. Jesus, on the other hand, was a person who listened to individuals such as Zacchaeus, and the bleeding woman. But maybe to Kelly, everyone under her in church, is like the Pharisees and deserves rebuking.

6. Kelly gives unwarranted advice to anyone and everyone under her. And because people relate to her in a sychophantic manner, they take her advice. Kelly believes she has the best advice. If you were to not take her advice, you would be an ungrateful and proud person. I believe this applies even to the "directors" under her. Narcissism.

7. Kelly has yelled at, and rebuked people in public for very petty things. The list is too numerous. If you research the basis of rebuking in the bible, it's saved for grave sins for unrepentant Christians. In doing what she has, she has publically humiliated people unnecessarily, and have also fed fear into others who have seen such events, further propagating sychophantic, fear-driven relationships toward her. This links back to numbers 1, 2 and 3.

The reason I point out these specifics is because to my knowledge she has not repented of them. Furthermore,the irony of Gracepoint breaking off from Becky and Berkland, citing narcissism when Kelly herself is guilty of the same confounds me.

I pray that these facts being stated will lead to her repentance and change. At the very least, I hope that people see that such behavior is unacceptable. She has harmed too many people under her. Compare her against Jesus, who washed his disciples' feet and was the servant of all.

hamcycle said...

Perhaps this topic deserves its own section. There is a lot here that I have not been aware of. If you are interested in becoming a co-author, please email me so I can set you up. This way you can fine tune your contributions.

WCC LETTER said...

Hi hamcycle,

how can I contact you? you can write to me @ wcc.letter @ g ma il . co m

I would like to find out more,

thanks,

hamcycle said...

I would recommend that you read through the remainder of this blog, wherein lies the answer to your request.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody find it interesting that the high-ranking staff at Gracepoint (encompassing Davis, SF and Silicon Valley) all worshiped the ground of Becky JDSN? I mean, they would literally push you down in order to get a little closer to her. A kind, complimentary word from Becky would make a person's whole year seem so wonderful.

And then, in the blink of an eye, she has become the demon incarnate. Do these staffers have minds of their own?

Don't get me wrong. I'm no Becky/Berkland lover, but doesn't anybody within those Berkand-breakaway churches stop to think about their own decisions and actions -- how they don't really speak of integrity, honesty and personal conviction?

What's the next group decision these churches will make, I wonder.

hamcycle said...

It's understandable why. They have everything on this side of Heaven to lose otherwise.

Anonymous said...

being a exberkander, I found this blog wondering if berkland had found its way into wikipedia (not that I know how that works). for those of us who went through what hamcycle and others have gone through,and I have to say there are stunning parallels to what happened to me, there arent enough adjectives to describe it. what is the most difficult part of it all for me are two things. Why and what was the purpose. Why me? That, on a superficial level is an easy answer. if you are asian american student in california in the 80s, 90s, and 2000 you are going to be exposed to berkland. heck, I heard even john cho and margaret cho tried it. the harder question is what was the purpose. How can God use such experiences to prepare me to be his minister of reconciliation? The rage I feel, the unspeakable sense of loss and waste at those years-how can God use those to reach others who will never know, never know, what I and other exberklanders went through. but I have to tell you, I havent given up on God. I know everything that has happened to me will fulfull my purpose to my savior while I am still on this earth. this however, doesnt change the fact that berkland, in its various tentacled branches, is an aberrant church and is harmful to people, especially the most vulnerable. the facts from this blog are only the tip of the iceberg.

Anonymous said...

Joel 2:25 "I will restore to you the years that the swarming locust has eaten..."

As someone who has similarly been chewed up and spit out by Berkland, I also went through a period of depression and frustration afterwards. But God is gracious, and looking back, I can see that He was with me during all of the hard times -He didn't make them say the things they did, or mistreat me, but he did let it happen according to his sovereign will.

For me, I have gained a great understanding into legalism and false gospels through Berkland, the Lord used my time there to give me a better understanding of his true and sufficient Grace. I hope that he can do the same for you.

My best suggestion would be for you to find a solid bible-believing church, ideally multi-cultural, and find some folks who can help you heal from your time at Berkland. I suggest any of the following denominations: Evangelical Free, Christian and Missionary Alliance, Presbyterian Church of America (PCA)... and believe it or not, any other Southern Baptist church besides Berkland. Another thing that has helped me is to stop reading the blogs.

Anonymous said...

thanks for that Word of encouragement. I still have not found a church home yet despite being away from Berkland for several years now. I agree that the best opportunity to experience God's grace is to attend a multi-ethnic large bible believing church. having read the blogs for the first time, I had a different reaction than yours. for me, the blog, for the first time, represents confirmation that I wasnt alone in my rational criticism of berkland/absk/gracepoint. that is to say, it wasnt just me. there was something deadly wrong with them. For me, it has taken a long time to admit I was spiritually abused. After all, at least as I perceived it, I received some acts of kindness by the "staff" (a ubiquitious term that involves not only the person who you spoke to, but the one who assigned that staff person to you). however, this did not excuse their actions and intentions that always seemed to follow. As I believe such a thing as spiritual abuse did exist and probably still does at Berkland and its legacy churches, I hope there are those out there who has the courage to read blogs such as this, dont stop asking questions, hard questions about their own faith, conversion, and God's will and dont let themselves be prey to intimidation from group dynamics, charismatic "bible studies" and attempts at isolation. for those who know they are going to be devoted to Berkland, these blogs are of little meaning. to those who know they have an uneasy feeling about their devotion to that place and its leaders, this dialogue may save you the heartache and frustration of menial labor and the loss of God's ever present Grace. to the 7/3/09 blogger, I am curious. did you ever find a counselor with whom to confide about your experience at berkland as ronald enroth suggests in his book "recovering from churches that abuse"? I am considering doing that myself.

Anonymous said...

i am so sorry for your experience.

i pray you will find a church that is healthy. i believe you will, if you don't give up heart.

but i don't pretend to believe that the scars of berkland will ever fade. what doesn't kill you (spiritually) can only make you stronger (spiritually), right?

one day, i hope i can pray for becky, ed and the gang. right now, they just make me sick. but at least, i have come to the point of having an open heart to where God is leading me. a healthy church can help you so much, so please keep looking.

Anonymous said...

Ezekiel 34:11 " 'For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them"

For those of us who have been scattered by the Berkland experience, we all have been forced to redefine what a church is. or rather, define it as it was originally defined. in the hebrew, the "church" is essentially defined as the bride of Christ (singular). (someone with knowledge of Hebrew, you can correct me on this). the ecumenical church, including Berkland, is fractious, divided, and scattered. right now, there are many brides, (plural). It is clear then that the church is a fallen place. If history teaches me anything, finding and looking for solace at church is doing so at my peril. there is no precedent for that in the Bible. this was the foundation for my vulnerability that Berkland leaders were tempted to exploit. God has promised to gather us all at the appointed time. Justice for the self serving shepherd is promised in Ezekiel. All God wants from me is to trust him like a nursing infant. that's it. For those who are in Berkland and feel shepherdless, I urge you stop. just stop. dont do anything. stop taking calls from the junior leaders. re-read the book of Acts. RE-read Romans. Trust HIm and Him only. Remember that your voice is important, especially to your Creator. Dissent in the church is nothing new. Read the biography of Jonathan Edwards. read the biography of John Wesley. Our belief has been forged by the arguments within the church walls. As for me, I havent felt more spiritually healthy than I do now.

hamcycle said...

Are you doing alright? Do you need someone to talk to?